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c++ - please help, patience appreciated.

reply graham <graham_member pathlink.com> writes:
Please help. I am about to start teaching myself C++. Ths coding is not my
problem it is where do I type it. If you can cast your mind back to beginning.
What do I need. Can I write my coding on Windows notepad, if so how do I run and
view it, do I need other software in order to do C++ writing. Plaes let me know
people.
Oct 21 2005
parent reply Bertel Brander <bertel post4.tele.dk> writes:
graham wrote:

 Please help. I am about to start teaching myself C++. Ths coding is not my
 problem it is where do I type it. If you can cast your mind back to beginning.
 What do I need. Can I write my coding on Windows notepad, if so how do I run
and
 view it, do I need other software in order to do C++ writing. Plaes let me know
 people.


Yes, you can use Notepad to edit/write the code, but,

It's often better to use a "programmer editor", in which you can:
- Configure and run the compiler, and see the output,
and jump to the line in which errors occur
- Run the program.
- Browse functions, classes, etc. and quickly find these.
This becomes important when your project gets bigger.

There is a list of such editors here:
http://texteditors.classichorseman.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EditorIndex

I have used Zeus which is on the list, but it is not free.
Vi, emacs and versions of these are very powerfull but
not easy to learn.

On the list you will also find Wain, which I have made, its free,
it can also be downloaded from my homepage, see below.

With your Mars compiler there is a version of Emacas, I have
not used it.

-- 
Absolutely not the best homepage on the net:
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/midgaard
But it's mine - Bertel
Oct 21 2005
parent reply Graham <Graham_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <djat38$20i6$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Bertel Brander says...

graham wrote:

 Please help. I am about to start teaching myself C++. Ths coding is not my
 problem it is where do I type it. If you can cast your mind back to beginning.
 What do I need. Can I write my coding on Windows notepad, if so how do I run
and
 view it, do I need other software in order to do C++ writing. Plaes let me know
 people.


Yes, you can use Notepad to edit/write the code, but,

It's often better to use a "programmer editor", in which you can:
- Configure and run the compiler, and see the output,
and jump to the line in which errors occur
- Run the program.
- Browse functions, classes, etc. and quickly find these.
This becomes important when your project gets bigger.

There is a list of such editors here:
http://texteditors.classichorseman.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EditorIndex

I have used Zeus which is on the list, but it is not free.
Vi, emacs and versions of these are very powerfull but
not easy to learn.

On the list you will also find Wain, which I have made, its free,
it can also be downloaded from my homepage, see below.

With your Mars compiler there is a version of Emacas, I have
not used it.

-- 
Absolutely not the best homepage on the net:
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/midgaard
But it's mine - Bertel


Do I need a compiler to run the program or can I run it on something else?
Oct 31 2005
next sibling parent Bertel Brander <bertel post4.tele.dk> writes:
Graham wrote:

 Do I need a compiler to run the program or can I run it on something else?


I'm not sure that i understand your question.

An editor is not a compiler and a compiler is not an editor.

To create your own programs you need a compiler, e.g.
Digital Mars and an editor, e.g. one of the ones mentioned
in my mail.

What do you mean by "run the program", which program?
And what could "something else" be?

-- 
Absolutely not the best homepage on the net:
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/midgaard
But it's mine - Bertel
Oct 31 2005
prev sibling parent reply graham <graham_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <dk5432$suf$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Graham says...
Sorry I meant to say editor not compiler. As I mentioned patience is necessary.
My questiono is basically can I wrie code in notepad and would this be a
compiler if so how do I view or run the progamme I have written. Do I need to by
an editor to do this or is there anything contained in Windows or Office that
will allow me to run the programme. E.g NOtepad is contained on windows as a
kind of compiler is there some kinf of editor I can use? Thanks for your help
with this.

In article <djat38$20i6$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Bertel Brander says...

graham wrote:

 Please help. I am about to start teaching myself C++. Ths coding is not my
 problem it is where do I type it. If you can cast your mind back to beginning.
 What do I need. Can I write my coding on Windows notepad, if so how do I run
and
 view it, do I need other software in order to do C++ writing. Plaes let me know
 people.


Yes, you can use Notepad to edit/write the code, but,

It's often better to use a "programmer editor", in which you can:
- Configure and run the compiler, and see the output,
and jump to the line in which errors occur
- Run the program.
- Browse functions, classes, etc. and quickly find these.
This becomes important when your project gets bigger.

There is a list of such editors here:
http://texteditors.classichorseman.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EditorIndex

I have used Zeus which is on the list, but it is not free.
Vi, emacs and versions of these are very powerfull but
not easy to learn.

On the list you will also find Wain, which I have made, its free,
it can also be downloaded from my homepage, see below.

With your Mars compiler there is a version of Emacas, I have
not used it.

-- 
Absolutely not the best homepage on the net:
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/midgaard
But it's mine - Bertel


Do I need a compiler to run the program or can I run it on something else?
Nov 01 2005
parent reply Bertel Brander <bertel post4.tele.dk> writes:
graham wrote:

 In article <dk5432$suf$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Graham says...
 Sorry I meant to say editor not compiler. As I mentioned patience is necessary.
 My questiono is basically can I wrie code in notepad and would this be a
 compiler if so how do I view or run the progamme I have written. Do I need to
by
 an editor to do this or is there anything contained in Windows or Office that
 will allow me to run the programme. E.g NOtepad is contained on windows as a
 kind of compiler is there some kinf of editor I can use? Thanks for your help
 with this.


Neither Windows nor Office provides any program
creation tools. Notepad can be used to write
and edit your code.

To do that you:
Open notepad, write your program, e.g.:
#include <iostream>
int main()
{
    std::cout << "Hello World!" << std::endl;
}
And you save the program to a file, say hello.cpp.
To be more accurate, this is the source code of your program.

The you open a command prompt:
Start Menu -> Run -> cmd (if NT/2000/XP else command)

The rest will be done in this commmand box.

Now you change the the active directory of your command
prompt to the folder in which you stored the source code,
this is done by the cd command, e.g.:
cd \myprograms\hello

Now you have to compile your program, that is, create an
executeable from the source code, this is done by the
compiler, you do it by running the command:
dmc hello.cpp

The compiler will most likely print the slightly odd message:
link hello,,,user32+kernel32/noi;

If the compiler succeeds, it will have created an
program called hello.exe. You can then run your program
by typing the command:
hello

And your program will write:
Hello World.

-- 
Absolutely not the best homepage on the net:
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/midgaard
But it's mine - Bertel
Nov 01 2005
parent graham <graham_member pathlink.com> writes:
Thank You Bertel


In article <dk8djg$l7a$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Bertel Brander says...

graham wrote:

 In article <dk5432$suf$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Graham says...
 Sorry I meant to say editor not compiler. As I mentioned patience is necessary.
 My questiono is basically can I wrie code in notepad and would this be a
 compiler if so how do I view or run the progamme I have written. Do I need to
by
 an editor to do this or is there anything contained in Windows or Office that
 will allow me to run the programme. E.g NOtepad is contained on windows as a
 kind of compiler is there some kinf of editor I can use? Thanks for your help
 with this.


Neither Windows nor Office provides any program
creation tools. Notepad can be used to write
and edit your code.

To do that you:
Open notepad, write your program, e.g.:
#include <iostream>
int main()
{
    std::cout << "Hello World!" << std::endl;
}
And you save the program to a file, say hello.cpp.
To be more accurate, this is the source code of your program.

The you open a command prompt:
Start Menu -> Run -> cmd (if NT/2000/XP else command)

The rest will be done in this commmand box.

Now you change the the active directory of your command
prompt to the folder in which you stored the source code,
this is done by the cd command, e.g.:
cd \myprograms\hello

Now you have to compile your program, that is, create an
executeable from the source code, this is done by the
compiler, you do it by running the command:
dmc hello.cpp

The compiler will most likely print the slightly odd message:
link hello,,,user32+kernel32/noi;

If the compiler succeeds, it will have created an
program called hello.exe. You can then run your program
by typing the command:
hello

And your program will write:
Hello World.

-- 
Absolutely not the best homepage on the net:
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/midgaard
But it's mine - Bertel
Nov 02 2005